>> chairwoman: good morning, everyone, the meeting will come to order. welcome to the march 2, 2020, meeting of the rules committee. i'm supervisor hillary ronen, chair of the committee. seated to my right is captain stefanie, and we'll soon be joined by supervisor gordon marr. mar. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> yes. please silence your cell phones and all electronic equipment. completed speaker cards and copies of any documents should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the march 10 board of supervisors

agenda unless otherwise stated. >> chairwoman: can you read item number one. >> item one is appointing two members to the commission on aging and advisory council. >> chairwoman: than thank you so much. i believe we're joined by juliette rothman. if juliette would like to come up and address the committee, thank you so much. if you just want to share with us your interest in the appointment. how are you? >> good. i'm here to seek reappointment to the advisory council, and just to tell you a little bit about myself. i worked in the direct practice of aging and disability for 25 years and have chaired ethics committees and hospice committees and all that kind of stuff. i got really concerned about some of the ethical

issues in health care, and went back and got a ph.d. in health care ethics. and taught at catholic move to franchise, taught at cal for 15 years in special welfare and public health, and in the si six-year joint medical program. and now i'm retired, and i'm really enjoying the shift from micro-practice, direct practice, to looking at things on a more macro level, after i taught macro, and now i'm getting to experience it. i'm serving on the aquatic park senior center's team lead, the neighborhood circle, and etc., etc. i really have been enjoying what i'm doing with the council. and i would like to

continue. >> chairwoman: thank you so much for your service. do you have any questions? >> no. i just want to thank you for your service, especially with regard to aquatic park senior center since that is in district 2. thank you so much. >> chairwoman: if we could hear from ms. graff. is that all we need from you? >> that's all. >> chairwoman: you're so impressive, we need no more information. >> good morning. thank you for listening to my petition here. i'm margaret graff and i'm a senior. this is specifically for reappointment to the advisory council to the commission for das. i am nominated by supervisor gordon mar. and i have the honor to be

nominated by two different supervisors since i was originally, first time around, a nominee of katie king. i've been -- my term expires on march 31. and i am seeking renomination because i think my work isn't done, or what i can contribute to the advisory council. presently on the advisory council, i serve on the executive committee because i am also the elected second vice president. i also serve on the legislative committee. what that specifically does is we review pending bills that are in the state legislature and follow them as they work their way through, or not, as the case may be. and as they work their way through, if we feel a

response is a good idea, we bring to the advisory council a suggestion of writing a letter of support. as far as my background is concerned, i'm a retired registered nurse, and i'm a retired attorney. so i have a medical and a legal background. >> chairwoman: can came first? >> the registered nurse. i was a registered nurse, and then i was a stay-at-home mom for 13 years, raising my three children. i've been a 56-year resident of district 4, so basically i was born in the midwest, and midwesterners tend to put down roots deep, so i did. >> chairwoman: can i ask you what inspired you to go to law school and get a law degree? i'm just curious. >> well, you're talking to an older woman here. i always wanted to be a lawyer. but i grew up in a very small town in the midwest,

and at that particular time, women didn't go off to become attorneys. we, at best, got to be teachers or nurses. and so that had to be put aside, which i did. and empty nest syndrome, where the children are beginning to get their wings a little and spread them, i thought, now or never. so i went to law school. >> chairwoman: well, speaking to two women attorneys, thank you for forging the bath for us. >> in my case, what glass ceiling? one of the things that inspired me to get so involved in the community, approximately seven years ago, my husband started to develop the symptoms of dementia and alzheimer's disease. and i was scared to death.

and i didn't know where to go or what to look for or where to get help. and in the process of finding my way through that maze, and finding that i didn't feel that -- there were so many agencies in san francisco, and it is so hard to evaluate what will help, but i felt i needed something locally, in my so about a year and a half ago, i went to katie king, and i said, i have an idea. i can't find what i want to meet the needs of a care-giver for a dementia patient, so i want to start something. and i started a group called "senior power." and if supervisor mar were here, he would readily tell you that i talk about it all of the time. no one is safe from my talking about senior power. but basically it is a non-profit organization. it is community-driven,

and the focus is on seniors, their families, and the care-givers. because of the nature of the district i come from, which is predominantly asian and pacific islander, i'm very proud to say that within this past year we now have offer translation services at our meetings. we meet monthly. we have guest speakers. we practice chi gong, and we have raffle prizes and light refreshments. it is a socialization, getting them out of the household. and that has led me to serve presently on three committees for supervisor mar. one for the elders. one for the safety -- street safety. and the other one for the city college satellite

that we were able to bring to district 4. and within that city college satellite program, what we now have is a class for older adults, which basically is t tai-chi. so round-about circle, one of the things we tried to do -- i'm probably going way over my minutes. one of the things that we need to do is all of these good services, to bring them to the outer districts, the to community, and serving on the advisory council, i have a firsthand seat at learning these. and i take it back. that's the whole point, frankly. >> chairwoman: thank you so much. >> thank you very much for listening. >> chairwoman: thank you. i will now open this item up for public comment. if any member of the

public wishes to speak of these two appointments, seeing none, public comment is closed. i just wanted to thank supervisors peskin and mar for appointing these extraordinary candidates for this advisory board. thank you so much for your willingness to do this work. it is crucially important. and captain stefanie has a few words. >> i want to echo your thanks to both supervisors for coming forth, both of you. i think this is such an important topic. i talk about seniors all of the time. i just actually returned home from mersed, where my dad was diagnosed with lewy body dementia two years ago, and he is declining rapidly. this weekend was the first weekend where he didn't recognize me. and it is very difficult for care-givers, and

watching a man who his library is full of the most difficult books one could ever wrapped their minds around, and now he is holding children's books, and watching this, someone just disappear, is extremely difficult. i want so badly to be able to figure out how we can help those suffering from dementia, and also how we can help the care-givers. so i really want to follow up with both of you, and to see if we can bring any of the programs you talked about to district 2, and how we can just support those that are care-giving, and those that are suffering. and if there is anything that we can do, i can't even begin to tell you what my family has been through with this diagnosis and just watching my dad disappear. thank you again for this extremely important work. i'm thrilled to be able to support both nominations today.

so with that, i need to put my glasses on. i would like to move forward with positive recommendation. the appointment of juliette rothman to seat 4 on the aging council, and margaret graff, to the full board without objection. >> chairwoman: without objection, that motion passes unanimously. thank you so much. [applause] >> chairwoman: mr. clerk, can you please read item number two. >> a hearing to consider appointing one member to the parks and recreation open space advisory commissioners. >> chairwoman: good morning. >> thank you for the opportunity to come in and speak about this.

my candidacy for the prozac committee. i have been a district 4 resident since 1986, so that is 34 years, and i married a district 4 native, with hi our two sons in district 4, who have now grown. and we have really relied on the open space and parks we have out there and throughout the city. the recreation centers, the west sunset, south sunset, we're very lucky to have these resources in our community, as well as the summer lakes, the kisar sports camp. that is to say i realize how important it is to have access to open space and parks for everybody, all ages and especially kids growing up in an urban environment. since 2016, i've been managing playland at 43rd avenue. it is a community resource that turned a vacant lot

around the old francis scott key school into a community recreation area, that has skateboarding, gardens, art programs, yoga for all ages -- which i want to tell margaret about later. so that has been a really rewarding opportunity to see all of the different people in our neighborhood coming together in different ways and using this really active space that houses all these different things. however, playland will be closing at the end of this year because of the teacher housing that is coming in, which is a great thing. and we knew that from the start of playland, even as the community was building and managing the space. supportive of the teacher housing, it is something we really need in san francisco. but it points to the other need of recreation and open space that we will now be losing. what is going to happen to those activities and where

will the people go? i know i've been talking with supervisor mar, and i know he is looking at alternatives and what can we do? where can we find other spaces, other types of spots for these kinds of activities? and that's something i'm really looking forward to having the opportunity to support him on, as a member of this committee. there are other things going on in district 4, like the sunset boulevard master plan where we might be able to combine some play or some gardening or maybe a little skate park. there is possibly vacant storefronts, church properties that gordon has been working on transitioning. i think it is opportunities and being creative and thinking of recreation and open spaces and environment in maybe different ways, and maybe alternative types of

spaces than we're used to seeing in terms of rec and park. so if i have the opportunity to serve on this committee, i hope to make sure there are these kinds of spaces for our district 4 residents, but also throughout all of the districts. districts in san francisco. and at the same time, supporting our city's sustainable green infrastructure. thank you. >> chairwoman: thank you for all of your service. i appreciate it. >> no questions for me? [laughter] >> chairwoman: i'm opening this item up for public comment. is there any member of the public comment that wishes to speak. seeing none, public comment is closed. again, supervisor mar made an excellent appointment. thank you so much fo for your extraordinary work. thank goodness we have such amazing people in san francisco willing to invest in their community. and all women.

>> women's history month. >> chairwoman: do you want to do the honors again? >> i would like to move forward the appointment of susan ryan to seat 3 on the park and recreations open spaces. >> chairwoman: that without objection, that passes. >> i would like to note that supervisor mar was absent for that vote. >> chairwoman: can you please read item number three. >> item number three is a hearing to appointing one member, ending march 31, 2022, to the pedestrian safety advisory committee. >> chairwoman: thank you so much. is ms. marta here? thank you so much. good morning. >> my name is marta lyndsay, and an education instructor at walk san francisco, and i've been there about two years. and i have enthusiastic support from the organization to be the

person to represent the pedestrian safety advisory committee. and i am a long-time san francisco resident. i have two young children. and i walk for almost all of my trips everywhere, and i feel these issues very personally, and i'm extremely committed and excited to get on the committee at this time. i've attended several meetings. we need to kind of get the committee sorted out on some fronts. and really harness the energy of the group for being another voice for pedestrians. so i think that's all i have to say. >> chairwoman: i'm just wondering, given what a horrible start to the year we've had with pedestrian fatalities and injuries, just your thoughts on how the group is doing and what additional resources,

if any, you need. >> yeah. thank you. i would like to report back on that after getting to participate in the meetings actively. but i think there is one thing,, onthing -- one thing wed is more members. there are several vacancies, and it is making it hard to have a quorum for voting. we're reaching out to senior and disability groups to fill the two empty seats right now that need to have folks representing senior disability groups. and there are a couple of other districts, i think, that i can't name right now. so that's going to be important. i think we have some great folks on there that are ready to get organized as a group and be a stronger voice, which we need right now. we need every voice possible. so, yeah. thanks. >> chairwoman: opening up this item for public comment. any member of the public wish to speak, or from

city departments? >> good morning, madam chair. elo ramos speaking on my own personal time. i want to take the opportunity this morning to support ms. lindsey's appointment. i've had the privilege of knowing marta forgoing on 14 years now. i've had the privilege of working with her in the past, when she was an advocate with myself, working for a safer, more inclusive and more functional, sustainable streets. she is a fierce advocate. she will hold us accountable. i knew her the whole time i was on the board of directors for the m.t.a., and just being her co-worker did not mean anything to her when it came to pulling me into conversations around doing better to get to our vision zero target more quickly. she has an extraordinary love for this city. she is deeply committed to the safety, and not just for her children, but for everyone. and she brings this

incredible, talented lens that speaks to communications and inclusiveness, and just a wonderful vision for vision zero. so i'm confident knowing the two of you, and your values, from a safety and security perspective, you'll very proud to make her appointment. >> chairwoman: any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel] >> chairwoman: go ahead. >> okay. great. well, i'm thrilled to be able to put forward with positive recommendation to the full board marta lindsey for seat 1 on the pedestrian safety advisory committee. >> chairwoman: without objection, that motion passes unanimously. >> and i would like to note that supervisor mar was ab sen absent for the vote. >> chairwoman: can you please read item number four. >> item four is a motion for the board of

supervisors' rules of order to set the process for the administration of oath for individuals testifying before the board, and to authorize the government audit and oversight committee to issue orders and issue subpoenas. >> chairwoman: thank you. and we're joined by supervisor peskin. do you have any remarks, supervisor peskin? >> thank you, chair ronen, supervisor stefanie. before you are the amendments that were proposed in committee last week, that you verbally suggested the city attorney, in consultation with the clerk of the board, insert into the language that is before you today. i know that the clerk of the board, ms. calvio, is here if you have any questions for her. i'd like to thank her and

deputy city attorney pearson for their work on this. i would like to, subject to public comment, duplicate the file and remove, in section 6.7.1, in a file to be forwarded to the full board, the language with regard to the administration of oath to a department head, and leave that in committee so that if there is any desire by the m.e.a. to meet and confer on that, we can do so. and send this item, with the amendment removing that, to the full board with recommendation, if this committee sees fit. >> chairwoman: and to the city attorney, have we reached out to the m.e.a.?

>> yes. this draft has been sent to the m.e.a. >> chairwoman: and when was that done? >> that was done at the end of last week. i believe it was on thursday. >> chairwoman: and have we heard back? >> i have not. >> chairwoman: and have we been in touch with d.h. r.? >> it was sent to d.h. r-- to m.e e.a.through d.h.r.. i don't know if they've determined there is a need for it, so we sent it to them. and it is up to them to decide if there is a need for meet and confer. >> chairwoman: why hasn't that happened before today? >> i don't know. it is a decision to be made by d.h.r. i don't know. >> so the legislation, without that language, was introduced and approved, and d.h.r. had

no comment two years ago. so the only thing that changed is this language, which i think spurred the city attorney to send it to d.h.r. i think we have some options, one is we can send it to the full board with this language, and if there is a desire for meet and confer, we could remove that language at the full board. that would be another option. >> chairwoman: yeah. i mean, this other language is important to me, given what we're facing. and it doesn't seem like there was the urgency to reach out to d.h.r., to ex them for their conclusion. it doesn't take two weeks to determine if the legislation is subject to meet and confer. >> i think a week has gone by. i like the language. i would like to keep the language. but i think perhaps, rather than duplicating file -- or we could

duplicate the file, and keep one here, and send the exact same file to the full board. and if the full board needs to remove that clause in section 6.7.1, we could to so next week. >> chairwoman: okay. i'm just expressing my disappointment to d.h.r., i don't know why it would take an entire week to decide if this is subject to meet and confer. it is a simple analysis and decision. so i don't know why that didn't happen, and i'm frustrated, so i just want to communicate that. having said that, are there any other questions or comments before opening this item up to public comment? no? >> i do want to thank you for approving item number one. >> chairwoman: yes. what an excellent candidate. is there any member of the public who wishes to speak. seeing none, public comment is closed. so i will make the

motion -- i guess any supervisor -- it doesn't have to be a committee member -- can duplicate the file? or does it have to be a committee member that duplicates the file? >> i believe a member of the committee to request a duplicate. >> chairwoman: motion to duplicate the file and to send -- and we already accepted the amendments last week, so we don't need to do that again -- to send the item as amended with recommendation. >> yes. just to clarify, you have duplicated the file. the version of the file that will be referred to the board of supervisor with recommendation will not have the information regarding -- >> chairwoman: no. no. no. we're duplicating the file so that they're identical. >> yes. >> chairwoman: we're sending one version to the board of supervisors, and we're keeping one version in committee, but they're identical. >> oh, yes. just to note that if they are identical, one

of them -- there are some rules regarding identical files. but we can discuss that at a later time. >> chairwoman: okay. we have both the clerk of the board and the city attorney here, so i'm wondering if we want to talk about those rules? no? >> if they -- >> chairwoman: okay. great. one more time, i'll just repeat: we're going to duplicate the files so we have two identical versions. one is going to stay in committee, and one is moving to a full board. my motion is to send the duplicated file to the full board with positive recommendation. >> yes. >> chairwoman: can we take that without objection? without objection, that motion passes unanimously. payers than >> thank you, madam chair and colleagues. >> chairwoman: mr. clerk, can you please read item number five. > [item five read]

>> chairwoman: good morning, mr. agustine, how are you? >> david augustin augustine her. we're here to talk about the exciting world of unsecured personal property taxes. things like business fixtures and things of that note, and equipment. we have an ordinance for the first time that we're approaching the board to consider. i would like to spend a couple of minutes to talk about why we're coming to the board because this is something we have not done, at least in my 15year years in office. it will allow the patroller to collect personal property debt on an ongoing basis. i want to make sure this legislation does not

allow for cancellation of any secured security taxes, i.e., secured by land or ones difficult to collect. this ordinance would allow only for cancellation of unsecured personal property debt. all bills that could be canceled, we would only cancel them if they're literally uncolleccollectible. there are three categories only. first, any amounts over 30 years old. second, any amounts that have been discharged after bankruptcy, again, we would be legally barred from collecting these accounts. and, third, any lean that has failed to have been filed or renewed. as a side note, before 2015, we had a manual lien removal process, essentially within three years of the debt being valid, to go and record with the recorder's

office, and we could renew it up to two different times. we now have an automated process where liens are automatically renewed, and we don't have to have people walking across city hall to record a document. so that would be the third category. it is a relatively small category. so why now? why are we asking now for this power? the office of the treasurer and controller are migrating to a new tax operation. and wcancellation of these accounts will allow us to transport tens of thousands of accounts. again, some of these obligations go back 50 years. we're proud, we have a high collection rate for

unsecured personal property tax collection, about 95%. every year we collect about $170 million annually in unsecured personal property taxes from about 80,000 different taxpayers. our systems have all been overhauled and allowed for automated contact and imposition of liens. canceling uncollectible debt is a practice other counties engage in. in addition, i did a quick survey of our colleagues in our california tax collector group and found out that hum belt, spanish law, and del nor have all canceled debt recently. what we're talking about is the accounts that have about $20 million, and with interest, it is about $100 million. and the reason the interest is so high because sometimes the accounts go back to about 50 years, and numbers about 35,000 accounts. by far, the greatest challenge to those

accounts represent bills that are over 30 years old, and the other challenge is bankruptcy or failure to renew a lien. with that, i would be happy to take any questions or discuss this in more detail. >> chairwoman: sure, does this authority currently rest with the board of supervisors? >> that's right, it does. >> chairwoman: out of curiosity, what ask to delegate this authority? >> great question. we proposed taking it out of the board's hands because we wouldn't be exercising, en m, in my view, any judgment. if we were choosing judgments that were difficult to collect, maybe there was a debtor that moved out of the country, i feel like that is of province of the board to cancel. these accounts we are legally unable to collect, so i thought we would take time off if

we took ought off the board. we could come back to the board if it was not falling into any of the three buckets i articulated earlier. we want to make sure we use the power judicially and appropriately. it is not our business to cancel accounts to begin with. it is my job to collect these taxes, and so that's certainly what we look forward to doing. >> chairwoman: why the controller and not the treasurer directly? is that because you want an outside party making the judgment call -- >> that is the state revenue and taxation code requirement that allows this to happen upon the state controller, usually the responsible power. it is a separation of powers issue, which we think is extremely appropriate. we would make a recommendation, and the controller would accept it or not accept it and

we would go forward from there. >> chairwoman: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? see none, public comment is closed. it makes a whole lot of sense to me. it looks like my colleagues agree. so we would like to move this forward with a positive recommendation, and without objection that motion passes unanimously. mr. clerk, is there any other items? >> that completes the agenda for today. >> chairwoman: and the meeting is adjourned thank you.

>> hi. my name is carmen chiu, san francisco's elected assessor. when i meet with seniors in the community, they're thinking about the future. some want to down size or move to a new neighborhood that's closer to family, but they also worry that making such a change will increase their property taxes. that's why i want to share with you a property tax saving program called proposition 60. so how does this work? prop 60 was passed in 1986 to allow seniors who are 55 years

and older to keep their prop 13 value, even when they move into a new home. under prop 13 law, property growth is limited to 2% growth a year. but when ownership changes the law requires that we reassess the value to new market value. compared to your existing home, which was benefited from the -- which has benefited from the prop 13 growth limit on taxable value, the new limit on the replacement home would likely be higher. that's where prop 60 comes in. prop 60 recognizes that seniors on fixed income may not be able to afford higher taxes so it allows them to carryover their existing prop 13 value to their new home which means seniors can continue to pay their prop 13 tax values as if they had never moved. remember, the prop 60 is a one time tax benefit, and the

property value must be equal to or below around your replacement home. if you plan to purchase your new home before selling your existing home, please make sure that your new home is at the same price or cheaper than your existing home. this means that if your existing home is worth $1 million in market value, your new home must be $1 million or below. if you're looking to purchase and sell within a year, were you nur home must not be at a value that is worth more than 105% of your exist egging home. which means if you sell your old home for $1 million, and you buy a home within one year, your new home should not be worth more than $1.15 million.

if you sell your existing home at $1 million and buy a replacement between year one and two, it should be no more than $1.1 million. know that your ability to participate in this program expires after two years. you will not be able to receive prop 60 tax benefits if you cannot make the purchase within two years. so benefit from this tax savings program, you have to apply. just download the prop 60 form from our website and submit it to our office. for more, visit our website, sfassessor.org,

disabilities and adult services meeting. may i have the secretary take the roll. [ roll call ] >> executive director mcfadden is present. at this time, we ask you silence all sound producing devices and cell phones. >> may i have a motion to approve the agenda. >> so moved. >> do we have a second? any discuss in all in favor. any opposed? motion carries. may i have a motion to approve the february 5th, 2020,